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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> England and Wales Court of Appeal (Criminal Division) Decisions >> Foster, R. v [2009] EWCA Crim 353 (10 February 2009) URL: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2009/353.html Cite as: [2009] EWCA Crim 353 |
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CRIMINAL DIVISION
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B e f o r e :
MR JUSTICE WYN WILLIAMS
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SIR PETER CRESSWELL
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OWEN STANLEY FOSTER |
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Mr A Wadling appeared on behalf of the Crown
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LORD JUSTICE RICHARDS:
"Well then, how do you deal with the fact that he has convictions because in one sense you may think, 'Well those are separate incidents and have got nothing to do with this case', on another thing you may think, 'Well we have heard a little bit about the defendant, how do we deal with that?'Well you have heard that he has the convictions, sometimes called bad character, and it is important that you should understand why you have this evidence and how you use it.
You have heard about his bad character because it forms a background to the case and also because it may help you when you come to consider some of the evidence in the case, and in particular the evidence of the defendant. It is right perhaps that you should know a little bit about him when you consider questions of truthfulness and reliability.
It may assist you to know when you come to consider the question of the allegation in particular of robbery in this case that he has two convictions for robbery in the past, but bear in mind that these are convictions in the past, the defence stress that they are seven and nine years earlier respectively, and you should not convict someone on the basis of their record, you should convict them on the basis of the evidence in this case if you are going to convict them, not -- you do not hang a dog by a bad name in this country. You understand what that means? Just because he has done something wrong in the past does not mean he has in this case so you can take it into account in deciding whether or not he committed this offence and in particular in deciding his truthfulness when he gives evidence but you will not convict him just because he has got previous convictions, you will use them in a fair way if at all and it is a matter for you to decide whether you should use them at all. As I say, conviction will be on the evidence in this case, the evidence of an identification, the evidence of the other factors and putting the evidence together."
"All jurors are convinced that the victim of the robbery is 100% certain that the defendant was the man who robbed her.Some jurors are uncertain if the victim's identification is enough to say guilty on its own. But the coincidence of the car being in both places leads them to believe he is guilty.
Is the coincidence of the car in both places, backed up by the belief in the victim's ID, enough to convict?"
That note was disclosed to counsel who were given time to consider it overnight and to make submissions on it the next morning. Following those submissions the judge invited the jury back into court and told then that he proposed to deal with their note in its constituent parts. He said:
" 'All jurors are convinced that the victim of the robbery is 100% certain that the defendant was the man who robbed her.'That does not require any comment from me. The next part is this:
'Some jurors are uncertain if the victim's identification is enough to say "Guilty" on its own.'Well, members of the jury, let me deal with that. The first thing that I have to remind you of is that the prosecution have to prove their case so that as soon as you are looking at guilty or not guilty you are looking at the evidence of course and remembering that the prosecution have to prove the case, and they have to prove the case so that you are satisfied so that you are sure, and that is plain English and does not need any further explanation from me, so enough to say 'Guilty', if you are satisfied on the evidence so that you then be that on evidence of identification or something else, if you are sure you are sure, and so, if you are not sure you are not sure, so that is the test that you have to apply and evidence of identification, notwithstanding the warning that I have given you, to which you should pay attention, can be sufficient to found a conviction and in some cases it does. In other cases it does not. The evidence in this case, or the issue rather, in this case, on each of the two counts is identification, so of course that is what you are going to be concerned with. There is no issue but that there was a robbery and there is no issue but that there was a car which somebody was driving on 18 July, the day after the robbery, and you may consider it is a very strong inference that the person driving the car who was fleeing from the police knew that they had a car that they were not entitled to drive because it was a stolen car. That is a matter for you to consider and the question is: who was the person in the car in relation to the robbery and who was the person in the car on the next day?
The next part of your question is this:
'But the coincidence of the car being in both places leads them to believe he is guilty.'Well, remember, it is satisfied so that you are sure. 'Believe' is a slightly different word than that which is why I pointed out to you that subject to the burden and standard of proof identification might be sufficient on its own to lead to a conviction. If there is additional evidence, the coincidence of the car being in both places, that of course would amount to supporting evidence as you rightly say in your question, and obviously that even more so would be capable of amounting to evidence that would satisfy you so that you are sure and be sufficient for a conviction, but it is a matter for you to decide.
The last part is this:
'Is the coincidence of the car in both places backed up by the belief in the victim's ID enough to convict?'Well the short answer is: 'Yes it is' but it is a matter for you. If you are satisfied so that you are sure that the defendant is guilty, then that is your verdict. If you are not satisfied your verdict is not guilty.
Does that assist you? I hope it does. If I have misunderstood your question or there is something else behind it that I have not followed, please send another note. If I have answered your query, as I hope I have, then, as I say, remember the warning about identification, remember that you are going to have to form decisions about whether the defendant was in the car both on 17 July and 18 July, but your questions as I understand them seem that you have that very much in mind and that is the question you are addressing."
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