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[1699] Mor 16702      

Subject_1 WITNESS.

Forbes
v.
Udney

Date: 13 June 1699
Case No. No. 115.

Giving more to a witness than the ordinary charges, disqualifies him.


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Samuel Forbes of Foveran, and the Laird of Udney, being in mutual declarators as to the right of a fishing, and some links; and Udney adducing some witnesses, it is objected against them, That they cannot be received, because they have gotten good deed, in so far as Udney had hired a boat for them in the north to bring them about to Edinburgh, and had put in considerable quantities of provision to serve them by the way; and being, by storm, put in at Arbroath, he had assisted them since, and caused his stabler at Edinburgh give them lodging; and though parties be liable to witnesses for their necessary expenses, yet the giving of it by way of per-advance is a subornation, and dangerous novelty, especially with common people, who, at such a time of scarcity, will do much for good fare and entertainment. Answered, He had them under caption, and could have brought them per force, and all he furnished them with was only bread and ale, which is far within the eight pence a day, which the Lords modify to a footman; and it imports not whether they get it before or after, even as it is no usury to adjudge for the expenses of the infeftment, though they are to be debursed afterwards; and, in the civil law, edulia are not reputed a bribe; and Udney had no design but to make his diligence effectual against the witnesses, and they shall purge themselves upon oath that what they have gotten was within the allowance of law; The Lords thought there was no design of corruption here, yet judged it of a bad preparative to engage the affections of such poor folk; and that in Spain, drunkenness, or a habit of swearing, or too much familiarity with the adducer, will reject a witness; therefore, to avoid all suspicion, they desired the Ordinary to try what quantity of provision Udney had laid in for them, and of what quality and kind it was, if beyond what they either used or ought to have; and accordingly to receive, if it did not exceed the legal allowance, with this reserve always, that the quantity might be the more because of the uncertainty how long they might be at sea.

Fountainhall, v. 2. p. 51.

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