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SCOTTISH_Shaw_Court_of_Session

Page: 1170

Lord Advocate

v.

Hervey
No. 367.

Justiciary Cases

Feb. 22 1835

Lord Justice-Clerk, Lord Mackenzie. Lord Moncreiff.

The Lord Advocate, Sol.-Gen. M'Neill— Urquhart. William Hervey,     Pannel.— J. Anderson.

Subject_Indictment—Forgery—Proof.—

1. A statement that a forged bill was enclosed in a letter addressed to a certain party, and put into the post-office, held sufficient to constitute an uttering. 2. A parent adduced as a witness against his child has an option to decline giving evidence.

In an indictment, containing an alternative charge of forgery or uttering, the manner of the uttering was thus set forth:—“You, the said William Hervey, did, on the said 12th day of August, 1834, or on one or other of the days of that month, or of July immediately preceding, or of September immediately following, at Campbelton aforesaid, wickedly and feloniously use and utter as genuine the said forged promissory-note, having the forged subscription thereon as aforesaid; and this you did, by enclosing the same in a letter addressed to Mr James Davies, glass and china merchant, Kilmarnock, bearing to be dated at Campbelton, 12th August, 1884, and to be subscribed by you the said William Hervey, wherein you tendered the said forged promissory-note to the said James Davies, in payment or to account of a sum of sixty pounds or thereby then due by you to him; which letter, and the said forged promissory-note enclosed therein, were, time and place aforesaid, put, or caused to be put, by you, the said William Hervey, into the public post-office at Campbelton aforesaid.”

It was objected to the relevancy, that this was not a complete uttering, there being no averment that the letter and its enclosure reached the person to whom it was addressed.

It was answered—By the letter being sent away and put into the public post-office, all was done that the law requires to infer uttering.

Lord Moncreiff referred to the English case of Sir Francis Burdett, and was clear that the objection could not be sustained. The other Judges concurring, the Court repelled the objection.

The father of the pannel having been tendered as a witness for the Crown,

J. Anderson objected—The father has an option to decline giving evidence against his son. The law is settled as to a child not being compellable to give evidence against its parent, on the principle of the natural affection of the child causing a metus perjurii; and the reason of this rule applies equally to the converse case. The authorities on this subject put parents and children on the same footing. 1 The case of Cowie was a civil action, 2 and even there a considerable minority of the Court were for applying this rule; and a distinction was taken in the argument and opinions between the civil and criminal practice.

Urquhart, A. D., answered—The rule, of which it is proposed to enlarge the application, is an anomaly in the law which ought not to be extended. The case of Cowie is a strong authority against such an extension. Leask's case 3 can have no weight as a decision on the opposite side, as there the public prosecutor intimated a wish that the pannel might have the option to decline if he desired to do so. Lord Stair, in handling this question, had chiefly civil actions in view, and his Opinion was disregarded in Cowie's case; but he appears to have thought differently as to the competency of examining parents arid children against each other in criminal charges.

Lord Justice-Clerk.—The rule in regard to a child offered against its parent has been repeatedly held as fixed. Lord Stair and Mr Burnett both hold it to apply equally to a parent offered against his child. However anomalous this may be, it is a part of our law; and there is no solid principle of distinction between the case of the child and the converse case of the parent. I have a strong impression that this law has been acted on by my brethren and myself, arid aril for holding the point as finally settled. I can make no distinction between a capital case and one of lesser magnitude.

Lord Mackenzie.—I concur in the opinion given, but with regret, feeling the anomaly of the rule. It is far more objectionable than that of holding the witness altogether inadmissible. To allow the father his option is to put him in the place of the judge; by agreeing to give evidence, he may be condemning his child to die. There is no such option in any similar instance; yet, according to Lord Stair, this anomaly was introduced at an early period into our practice. As a consequence of the rule, the child, if a pupil, has been held incapable of exercising its option. I am riot aware that the practice had been followed in any but capital cases; and, in Cowie's case, the judges seem to have been right in holding, that the rule had not yet been extended to lesser crimes. There they refused to extend it to civil instances, in which the defender himself may be made a witness by a reference to his oath. For, if the parent is to be made a witness against himself, it should also be competent to adduce the child against him. I do not think we can distinguish between the case of a parent and that of a child; nature makes

_________________ Footnote _________________

1 Stair, IV. 43, 7; Bankton, II. 646; Burnett, 482.

2 9th Dec. 1828 (ante, VII. 146); and Fac. Coll.

3 18th April, 1818, Hume, II. 348.

no such distinction, except perhaps in regard to the greater affection of the parent.

Lord Moncreiff.—I agree that we cannot depart from the rule that has been followed in practice, though I cannot say I regret this so much as my brother who spoke last, believing it to be founded on a solid principle in our law—the principle of metus perjurii, which runs through the whole of our law of evidence, though not so much regarded in the law of England. So, in civil cases, on certain questions, we reject near relations as witnesses. I recollect an instance, in Gordon v. Gordon, of one son offering his mother as a witness against another son, to prove a prior marriage; the mother was first held admissible, but, on reconsideration, she was rejected. As showing the contrast between our law and that of England in the Berkeley Peerage case, Lady Berkeley was admitted as a witness by the House of Lords, and yet, after her testimony was given, it was not believed, on the ground that there could be nothing but perjury in the matter.

In regard to a child, it has been long held, that he could not be compelled to swear away the life or perpetual liberty of his parent; and I can see nothing to distinguish this from the case of a parent—a father or a mother—believing that there is no affection under heaven so strong as the affection of a mother for her child. There could not be conceived a more trying situation than that of a mother, on whose evidence the life of her child depended. In the case of Leask, where the point was long argued, the witness was withdrawn, and it cannot be affected as a precedent, by the fact of the public prosecutor having consented to this step. But several cases have occurred since. In the case of Braid and his sister, for incest and murder, in this Court, the mother of both was called, and told of her option; she chose to give evidence, and one of the pannels was acquitted. Another case occurred at Glasgow before Lord Meadowbank and myself. Thus it is now too late to go back upon the rule. It is true there may be inconvenience attending it, as the late Lord Meadowbank observed; and yet, at Glasgow, in 1814, his Lordship allowed the existence of the rule. It must be presumed, either that the witness is an honest man, or is under the influence of affection. If he is an honest man, there can be no collusion or falsehood; but if it is to be presumed that he will not tell the truth, from a bias to the pannel, then, by allowing him an option, we just reject a witness, from whom the truth could not be expected; should he choose to give evidence, intending to swear falsely to save the child, then his evidence can be of little value. I agree with the chair, that the witness must be sworn, and then directed as to his option; if he decline, that will be a fact for the jury in reference to the rest of the case; and, in so far as the public prosecutor is concerned, he will be viewed as if he were dead.

The witness was accordingly put into the box and sworn, and, having been told as to his option, declined to give evidence.

Solicitors: James Tytler, W. S.—Agent for the Crown.

SJ 13 SJ 1170 1835


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