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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> Lock v. Sefton Support Services Ltd [2001] UKEAT 1401_00_3011 (30 November 2001) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2001/1401_00_3011.html Cite as: [2001] UKEAT 1401_00_3011, [2001] UKEAT 1401__3011 |
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At the Tribunal | |
Before
THE HONOURABLE MR JUSTICE MAURICE KAY
MR H SINGH
MRS J M MATTHIAS
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
Revised
For the Appellant | THE APPELLANT IN PERSON |
For the Respondent | MR JOHN FALKENSTEIN (Of Counsel) Instructed by: LPMS Mrechants House 1-7 Leeds Road Windhill Bridge Shipley West Yorkshire BD18 1BP |
MR JUSTICE MAURICE KAY
"The conduct complained of is entirely consistent with his condition at the time".
"The Applicant was not shown Ms Williams' staff update sheets which were produced in the course of her initial investigation at or before the hearing with Mr Fieldsend or at all.
He was not shown the memorandum by Karen Armstrong of his meeting with her on 30 June 1999 which refers to him receiving a warning, nor was he shown Ms Alty's statement of complaint dated 24 June 1999. Furthermore he genuinely believed that the matters concerning the 23, 24 June 1999 had been resolved by a verbal warning.
Ms Williams conduct in that she commenced the investigation but not being part of the panel at the disciplinary hearing nonetheless discussed the case with Mr Fieldsend after it and then gave Ms Crotty an oral report of the case, including Mr Fieldsend's reasoning, offends the principle of natural justice that justice must been seen to be done. She had information, to which the Applicant was not privy, namely a number of statements and Mr Fieldsend's reasoning and her views must have been a powerful influence on Ms Crotty's decision to dismiss the Applicant.
The Applicant was disadvantaged by not being provided with all the relevant documents.
Although we accept that taken as a whole there were a number of inconsistencies in some of the statements of the witnesses, we found Mr Fieldsend to be a truthful and reliable witness who made a fair assessment of the evidence before him. He was therefore entitled to conclude that the Appellant's allegations of abuse were false and that he himself had acted improperly. These are matters of gross misconduct.
Had he known that Ms Armstrong had told the Applicant he would receive a verbal warning for his conduct on 23 and 24 June 1999, he would not have recommended he be dismissed for them".
Before leaving that part of the case we observe that the Appellant had submitted to the Employment Tribunal that there was something in the nature of a conspiracy between Mr Fieldsend and Ms Crotty and others to remove him but that was rejected by the Employment Tribunal. Thus far, therefore, we have a disciplinary procedure with identified defects.
"The appeal was not a re-hearing, it was a review of the evidence before Mr Fieldsend. Mrs Bale rightly informed the Appellant that she would take the cases of the statements put in at the disciplinary hearing as being true unless the Appellant could forward evidence to prove otherwise. In her judgment he did not.
The Appellant made a number of criticisms of witnesses evidence, including the retraction of Ms Alty of a part of her statement, but he did not satisfy Ms Bale that there were any fundamental flaws in the evidence as a whole.
She was not influenced by any views from Ms Williams.
There is only one outstanding issue, the failure to disclose the staff update sheets, Ms Alty's statement and Karen Armstrong's minutes dated 30 June.
Ms Bale concluded that since the Appellant had not received written notification of a verbal warning from the events of 23 and 24 June 1999, the Respondent was free to impose whatever sanction it thought appropriate. We disagree. He had in reality been told on 30 June 1999 that he would receive a verbal warning. As far as he was concerned the matter was closed. We have therefore concluded that it was not reasonable for the Respondent to dismiss the Appellant on those incidents. In these circumstances it does not matter that he never received Ms Armstrong's memorandum or Ms Alty's statement.
By the Respondent's failure to disclose the staff update sheets the Appellant was deprived of the opportunity to make as cogent criticism of the witnesses evidence as he might. We had to consider whether taken as a whole this defect alone renders the dismissal unfair. An examination of the various statements shows that there are inconsistencies but they do not detract from the substance of the witnesses' evidence. Taking all the circumstances in to account, and the disciplinary process as a whole, and bearing in mind that it is not for the Tribunal to make its own judgment we have concluded that it does not".
"The Respondent carried out a reasonable investigation.
Save for the non-disclosure of documents referred to above all the defects in the disciplinary hearing and the decision by Ms Crotty were cured by the appeal.
In all the circumstances of the case for the reasons stated above, taken as a whole we do not believe any disadvantage the Applicant's suffered was sufficient to render an otherwise fair procedure unfair.
The Applicant's conduct on 23 and 24 June 1999 was not a sufficient reason for dismissal since he had been led to believe that he would receive a verbal warning for it. It was not therefore a fair reason for his dismissal.
However the Respondent's belief that he had made false allegations against Mr Morgan and had suborned a service user to confirm the bag incident was reasonable. They are matters of gross misconduct and a sufficient reason for dismissal".
"All the defects in the disciplinary hearing and the decision by Ms Crotty were cured by the appeal".
"The fact that a single breach of natural justice is found to have occurred will not of itself automatically lead to a finding of unfair dismissal, although the finding that this single breach of fair procedure did not disadvantage the Appellant comes, arguably, perilously close to the 'no difference' approach disapproved by The House of Lords in Polkey v A E Dayton [1988] ICR 142".
"If an employer has failed to take the appropriate procedural steps in any particular case the one question the Industrial Tribunal is not permitted to ask in applying the test of reasonableness posed by Section 57(3) [i.e. the predecessor of Section 98(4)] is the hypothetical question whether it would have made any difference to the outcome if the appropriate procedural steps had been taken".
It seems to us that if one stands back and takes a broad view of the reasoning process of the Employment Tribunal in the present case, it could be said that in its concluding passages it was providing an answer suggestive of it having asked itself the forbidden question to which Lord Bridge referred.