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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> Kelly v. The First Group [2003] UKEAT 0497_03_0509 (5 September 2003) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2003/0497_03_0509.html Cite as: [2003] UKEAT 497_3_509, [2003] UKEAT 0497_03_0509 |
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At the Tribunal | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE D SEROTA QC
MS J DRAKE
MR P GAMMON MBE
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
PRELIMINARY HEARING
For the Appellant | MR K KELLY THE APPELLANT IN PERSON |
JUDGE D SEROTA QC:
"When an Employment Tribunal has not erred in law, neither the Employment Appeal Tribunal nor the Court of Appeal Tribunal should disturb its function 'unless one can say in effect, my goodness that was certainly wrong'."
"If Mr Garlick is a man of the type that has been described to us, we would not have thought that he sufficiently cautious or clever to avoid making racially abusive comments if he is racially motivated."
"The tribunal failed to make the necessary findings of fact and where the truth lay; this submitted as perverse."
On the other hand, our reading of the Decision of the Employment Tribunal suggest that they did. In paragraph 4 the matter is put in a slightly different way:
"The tribunal failed to observe the primary facts of this case and to draw such inferences considered proper from those facts; this is submitted as perverse."
Again, it seems to us that the Employment Tribunal did consider the relevant facts and come to its conclusion. In paragraph 5:
"It is submitted that the tribunal misdirected themselves by failing to observe the difficulties faced by an applicant who brings a claim of discrimination, and the fact that it is rare that employers will admit discriminatory conduct, or indeed be consciously aware of its presence; ... ."
"The tribunal went 'fishing' for specific racist conduct, misdirecting themselves by failing to draw inferences from the evidence placed before them; this submitted as perverse."
And this relates to the fact that the Employment Tribunal had come to the conclusion that no racially abusive words had, in fact, been used against Mr Kelly or Mr Fasshi and the Employment Tribunal in asking itself whether Mr Garlick had behaved in a racist manner had come to the conclusion he was the sort of person who, if he wanted to insult someone on racial grounds, was insufficiently clever and to refrain from doing so. That was not the sole basis of the decision of the Employment Tribunal, but was a matter it was entitled to have regard to in the weighing-up process.