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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> Roadbeach Ltd v Werner [2007] UKEAT 0304_07_1110 (11 October 2007) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2007/0304_07_1110.html Cite as: [2007] UKEAT 0304_07_1110, [2007] UKEAT 304_7_1110 |
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At the Tribunal | |
Before
MR RECORDER LUBA QC
MRS M McARTHUR BA FCIPD
MR H SINGH
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
JUDGMENT
For the Appellant | MR S JACKSON (a Solicitor) Messrs Harding Evans Solicitors Queens Chambers 2 North Street Newport South Wales NP20 1TE |
For the Respondent | MISS E SUTTON (of Counsel) Instructed by: Messrs Hornby Baker Jones & Wood Solicitors 13-14 Clytha Park Road Newport Gwent NP20 4PB |
SUMMARY
Unfair Dismissal.
Redundancy
Tribunal holds that the dismissal was unfair because the employer failed to arrange an oral hearing of an appeal against dismissal and determined it on the papers.
Appeal to EAT allowed. Determination of this employee's appeal on the papers was within the range of reasonable responses open to an employer.
Further grounds of appeal allowed in relation to the Tribunal's approach to compensation and costs.
MR RECORDER LUBA QC
Introduction
The Facts
The Tribunal's Judgment
The appeal against the finding of unfair dismissal
"36. We find that the dismissal in so far as it was carried out by Mr Goldsmith was fair, and that Mrs Werner contributed substantially to that decision. However we find in failing to give her an opportunity to put her case other than through her actual appeal letters at the appeal stage, the Respondents did not act reasonably, and we find that that failure detracted from the fairness of the dismissal as a whole. Any reasonable employer in similar circumstances would have apprised himself sufficiently of the circumstances of the dismissal to appreciate that Mrs Werner had not put her side of the story at the dismissal stage through her own conduct in failing to take up the offer to consult. He would have appreciated that this was an opportunity for her to remedy her contributory conduct by putting her arguments in a non-obstructive manner.
37. Any reasonable employer in such circumstances would have given her an opportunity to put her case at the appeal stage. Had she been able to put her case she may or may not have been able to put forward some sort of suggestion that could have reduced the impact of the redundancy situation on her, for example by accepting the co-ordinator's post. We do not speculate as to any possible outcome.
38. We find that in failing to give her an opportunity to put her case on appeal the Respondents did not act reasonably within the meaning of section 98 of the 1996 Act. Accordingly the dismissal was unfair."
"Failure by an employer to follow a procedure in relation to the dismissal of an employee shall not be regarded for the purposes of section 98(4)(a) as by itself making the employer's action unreasonable if he shows that he would have decided to dismiss the employee if he had followed the procedure."
"The s.98A(2) and Polkey exercises run in parallel and will often involve consideration of the same evidence, but they must not be conflated. It follows that even if a Tribunal considers that some of the evidence or potential evidence to be too speculative to form any sensible view as to whether dismissal would have occurred on the balance of probabilities, it must nevertheless take into account any evidence on which it considers it can properly rely and from which it could in principle conclude that the employment may have come to an end when it did, or alternatively would not have continued indefinitely."
That makes amply the point as to the requirement for the Tribunal to consider the matter for itself.
" Although we have heard no argument on this point it seems to us that even where the statutory procedures are complied with but the dismissal is unfair under Section 98(4) Polkey will still apply, where on the balance of probabilities the employee would not have been dismissed even had a fair procedure been complied with but where there is a chance that he might have been. (That chance would, of course, have to be less than 50 per cent otherwise Section 98A(2) would bite and the dismissal would be fair.) The compensation would in those circumstances have to be reduced accordingly."
Although that passage proceeds on the basis of an assumption as to the law made in the absence of argument it seems to us with respect that it is legally correct; moreover, Mr Jackson submits that it has been followed and applied in other cases.
The appeal in respect of the Polkey reduction
"Mr Jackson for the Respondents, submitted that compensation should not be based on Mrs Werner's final net wage, but on a reduced figure to reflect the probability that she would have been dismissed in any event or would have stayed on in the co-ordinator's role at £14,000 per annum. We have considered the various possibilities that could have arisen out of successful consultation and are not satisfied that she would necessarily have been dismissed, or necessarily been on a reduced salary."
The appeal against the basis of compensatory award
The appeal on costs